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fujishig07-30-18 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Abob Teff(Post 13380914)

I’m betting it’s much more than that. IF they actually had 3 million subscribers,I wouldn’t be surprised at a 10% cancellation rate. We’ll probably never know though. I doubt they make it to their next quarterly report.

Another odd thing — where are the “disgruntled” MoviePass employees? I’ve not seen any employees mentioned in any media articles or even referenced in online forums.

For what it is worth, I checked the app and it is showing two showtimes for “Sorry to Bother You” today. I’ll try to remember to check closer to showtime and see what happens.

Stock update: $1.22

According to reddit, you still can't check in to non eticketing theaters.

I really hope these eticketing theaters, especially the smaller ones, have some kind of guarantee in their contract. If they're left holding the bag and at the end of the line of a long list of creditors, that could doom some of them.


Obi-Wanma07-30-18 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fujishig(Post 13380920)

According to reddit, you still can't check in to non eticketing theaters.

I really hope these eticketing theaters, especially the smaller ones, have some kind of guarantee in their contract. If they're left holding the bag and at the end of the line of a long list of creditors, that could doom some of them.

I don't think the e-ticketing theaters are just giving away tickets based on a line of credit or anything like that. I think MoviePass is buying the tickets directly from the theaters on a ticket by ticket basis. They may or may not be receiving a discount on said tickets, but they are still paying for them.

The only reason why e-ticketing continues to work when the credit card doesn't is because there is no middle man processing the charges. It's their non-payment to the credit card company that got the CC shut down.


Red Hood07-30-18 10:18 AM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Checked again this morning and Mission Impossible still a no-go on the app.


Draven07-30-18 10:39 AM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

I signed up for MP initially when it dropped to $9.99 but it just seemed really convoluted to mess with so I cancelled it almost immediately.

The AMC deal is more attractive but it's not convenient for me. We used to regularly go to an AMC but they remodeled the smaller Marcus theater that was closer to us and made it fantastic. We recently went back to that AMC since they were the only ones showing Infinity War a few weeks back and it was really garbage by comparison.

I wish all the theaters would do some kind of discount for frequent moviegoers. The Marcus rewards program is decent - we usually get a few bucks off every time we go. But we do that popcorn bucket that you buy at the beginning of the year for like $25 and then it's cheaper to fill it and that pays off right away. I would happily give up to $40-50 a month to a theater for a pass where I could see a movie a day or something. They'd make it up on me with concessions alone.


fujishig07-30-18 10:53 AM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni(Post 13380939)

I don't think the e-ticketing theaters are just giving away tickets based on a line of credit or anything like that. I think MoviePass is buying the tickets directly from the theaters on a ticket by ticket basis. They may or may not be receiving a discount on said tickets, but they are still paying for them.

The only reason why e-ticketing continues to work when the credit card doesn't is because there is no middle man processing the charges. It's their non-payment to the credit card company that got the CC shut down.

I'm pretty sure there was a brief time where non eticketed check ins worked after they got the loan, which would indicate they solved the payment issues but basically broke the system to throttle how much they're spending. But who knows? If they're paying the eticket theaters per ticket in real time, good.


fujishig07-30-18 01:56 PM

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Stock is like .85 cents right now. They did a 1:250 split and are still going to be delisted.


dvdjunkie3207-30-18 02:07 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by Red Hood(Post 13380941)

Checked again this morning and Mission Impossible still a no-go on the app.

Same here. I don't care anymore. I'll be glad if they stick around, but I'll also enjoy watching this BS company crash and burn. I don't see how they can legally still advertise that you can see any movie any time yet restrict a big release like Mission Impossible. Their clause that they can change the terms of service at any time shouldn't give them the right to do anything. Hell, they could decide to suddenly charge you $500 a month and say, you agreed to the clause.


skywalker807-30-18 02:36 PM

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Here in NYC with about 30 theaters near me, virtually all are showing no more films for the rest of the day.


Why So Blu?07-30-18 02:40 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Yeah, only the e-ticketing system is working in general and includes MI:6. All the general ones say "no more screenings at this theater."


stingermck07-30-18 02:47 PM

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clappj07-30-18 02:49 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32(Post 13381038)

I don't see how they can legally still advertise that you can see any movie any time yet restrict a big release like Mission Impossible. Their clause that they can change the terms of service at any time shouldn't give them the right to do anything.

Yeah, they changed the terms on Friday, so they can exclude "certain movies" a.k.a. the hit movie premiering this weekend.

As we continue to evolve the service, certain movies may not always be available in every theater on our platform. This is no different than other in-home streaming options that often don’t carry the latest shows or movies that may be available on other services. For example, you can’t ever find Game of Thrones on Netflix, nor is Season 4 of Schitt’s Creek available there yet.

More and more, I'm feeling the "Schitt's Creek" reference is likely a Freudian slip reflecting the company's financial situation.


movieguru07-30-18 02:57 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by stingermck(Post 13381054)

I got this as well


dex1407-30-18 03:01 PM

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Well I’m glad I at least got to see 3 movies during this period before my month is up. I feel bad for anybody who had a payment within the last 5 days or so.


tommyp00707-30-18 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck(Post 13381054)

I see this as well. Earlier today most theaters were showing some movies, none surged. From what I read on Reddit, if you checked in it failed to process. I guess that’s it.


Timber07-30-18 03:10 PM

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Hit the cancel just to be sure I wasn't charged on the 3rd.


Abob Teff07-30-18 03:31 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

From the app just now:

7/30 - MoviePass Updates

Monday, July 30th

We are aware and working on a fix to a technical issue that is affecting some users using our card-based check-in system.

E-ticketing remains fully functional today. We advise our users who would like to visit non e-ticketing theaters to wait to head to the theater until we have a full resolution.

Thank you for you patience and sorry for the inconvenience.

Not only is the app not showing any showtimes in Springfield, it is not showing any theaters!

The end isn’t near ... it’s here.

Stock closed at 80 cents (dipped as low as 77).


Abob Teff07-30-18 03:36 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by fujishig(Post 13381035)

Stock is like .85 cents right now. They did a 1:250 split and are still going to be delisted.

There actually was another piece to the threat of delisting. Though it was the touted piece, getting the share price over $1 wouldn’t have mattered. They needed to attain a market cap (total share value) over $50 million as well. After the reverse split, they only had 1.7 million shares in circulation. Multiply that by the share price and you get the market cap.


fujishig07-30-18 03:46 PM

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Try contacting them in the in-app chat for help. Type anything. Canned response instantly comes up and the chat closes.


Goldberg7407-30-18 03:50 PM

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I did the year membership last February (12 x $6.95). I doubt I’ll get reimbursed for any time left if this goes under.

I’ve seen 8 movies on it, so it has paid for itself.

I’d like to go see one tonight, hopefully they’ll fix the problem before then.


Decker07-30-18 03:54 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

Originally Posted by Goldberg74(Post 13381097)

I’d like to go see one tonight, hopefully they’ll fix the problem before then.

rotfl


TomOpus07-30-18 05:04 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

I just cancelled in case the ability to do that went away.

Reason? "I think you know why."


DJLinus07-30-18 06:19 PM

re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]

In the unlikely event it survives that long, Movie Pass is going to block The Meg. Films like that are why MP exists!

MoviePass CEO announces in all-hands meeting that tickets to big upcoming movies will not be available on the app
Jason Guerrasio

MoviePass subscribers were frustrated to find over the weekend that they couldn't order tickets through the app for the weekend's biggest release, "Mission: Impossible — Fallout," and it looks as if going forward they will continue to be shut out of major titles.

A source familiar with the matter told Business Insider that during an all-hands meeting on Monday, MoviePass CEO Mitch Lowe said the app would not make "Christopher Robin" and "The Meg" — the two major releases hitting theaters in the next two weeks — available to its subscribers, and he implied that the practice of not offering tickets to major movies would continue for the foreseeable future.

The company has fallen on incredibly hard times as it tries to find a financially feasible business model.

Last week, MoviePass' parent company, Helios and Matheson Analytics, did a reverse stock split that boosted shares to about $14 on Wednesday from $0.09 on Tuesday. The service temporarily shut down on Thursday night because it ran out of money, and HMNY said in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing on Friday that it had to borrow $5 million in cash to get it back online. Its stock closed at $2 on Friday.

Things didn't get any better going into the weekend as complaints on social media were rampant. "Mission: Impossible — Fallout" was blocked for subscribers, and the app had more technical issues again on Sunday.

Lowe's announcement at the all-hands meeting came on the heels of an open letter on Friday in which he said, "As we continue to evolve the service, certain movies may not always be available in every theater on our platform."

When reached for comment for this article, a MoviePass representative referred Business Insider to the CEO's statement in the Friday letter.

Because MoviePass has to pay the full ticket price for all the movies its subscribers go see, eliminating major releases going forward means the cash-strapped company would pay millions less. (As of mid-July, MoviePass paid more than 1.15 million tickets for just "Avengers: Infinity War.")

HMNY's stock closed below $1 on Monday.

https://www.businessinsider.com/movi...-on-app-2018-7


Why So Blu?07-30-18 06:21 PM

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It doesn't matter to me. Sinemia lets you do all movies. I've never used MP for the big films anyway. I use it for indie flicks or films that have already been out for a while. If they're talking about not letting folks use it on the big films like those two examples then they expect to be round a few more weeks.


DJariya07-30-18 06:34 PM

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:lol: f*cking Movie Pass. If that isn’t the nail in the coffin, I don’t know what else is. They are so dead.


JimRochester07-30-18 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck(Post 13381054)

Oh boy. Every theater is showing me this:

https://s22.postimg.cc/g9eld5i1d/380...28943360_n.png

Every theater including the discount theater with $4 tickets is showing blacked out.

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